In the conversation, Aaron expresses a desire to avoid hearing from Jacob, indicating a strained relationship. He prefers to keep his distance from Jacob, who has been banned from their Church community. This signifies a deeper conflict that affects Aaron's feelings towards Jacob.
Ephram highlights that while Jacob may be ousted from the Church, he still remains a part of Aaron's life. This suggests that despite external pressures and judgments, familial connections and emotional ties are not easily severed, and Aaron may struggle with this reality.