JAY: No, I'm talking about the leadership of the Democratic Party went along with the Patriot Act, went along with the war in Iraq. VIDAL: Have you ever found them? You know where they live? JAY: The leadership of the Democratic Party? VIDAL: You know, they're not visible. There's some obviously good people in the party. I like Dennis Kucinich, I like Senator Leahy. There are some very good people in Congress. And let's hope they start doing some oversight. But I'm not very sanguine.
In a conversation between Jay and Vidal, Jay criticizes the Democratic Party's leadership for their support of the Patriot Act and the Iraq War. Vidal responds by questioning the visibility of these leaders and suggests that while there are commendable individuals within the party, such as Dennis Kucinich and Senator Leahy, they are not the ones currently driving the agenda.
Vidal expresses skepticism about the potential for meaningful oversight from the Democratic leadership. He acknowledges the presence of good people in Congress but ultimately lacks optimism regarding their influence or action in the context of national security and governance.
