In Richard Russo's "Straight Man," a conversation between Herbert and the narrator reveals tension between the characters. Herbert expresses a strong belief that Rourke has a deep-seated hatred for the narrator. However, the narrator dismisses this notion with a confident smile, suggesting that Rourke's feelings are more complex than mere animosity.

The narrator’s perspective implies that, rather than loathing him, Rourke's engagement with the narrator serves as a source of direction or purpose in his life. This interaction highlights themes of rivalry and the nuanced dynamics of relationships, indicating that conflict can also lead to a sense of focus and meaning for individuals involved.