Clevinger expresses a reluctant acknowledgment of the idea that a long life may require enduring many hardships to truly feel lengthy. He questions the value of such a life filled with hardships, suggesting that it might not be desirable. This reflects a deep inner conflict about the nature of existence and the burdens that come with it.

Dunbar, in response, asserts that he desires a long life despite its difficulties, prompting Clevinger to question the reasoning behind this wish. Dunbar’s reply hints at a sense of acceptance and understanding that life entails challenges, but also an implicit trust in the journey itself. This exchange highlights different perspectives on life, suffering, and the quest for meaning.