The passage presents a conversation that explores the concept of reincarnation, questioning its significance and the cyclical nature of existence. One character suggests that if the saints embrace reincarnation, it must hold some value, referring to it as a game. The other character, Mark, suggests that while there are patterns or repetitions in life, they could simply relate to the physical act of breathing, a core aspect of human experience.

This dialogue highlights a contrast between abstract philosophical ideas and the more tangible, literal aspects of life. The speaker challenges the need for metaphorical interpretations, emphasizing the importance of direct experiences like breathing, which is fundamental and more straightforward than the complexities of concepts like reincarnation.