在印度和尼泊尔，我去了夏威夷的夏威夷习惯。几次，我去了一个屠宰场附近的一个地方，那里有成千上万的水牛骨头在棒极金字塔中被高高地堆积。一个晚上，当我诵经时，骨骼开始转移，移动和嘎嘎作响。我不认为这是幽灵或恶魔，但我确实想象某种巨大的老鼠或蛇正在巨大的堆中。我必须承认，尽管我设法以某种方式设法诵经，祈祷和练习阴沉的冥想和可视化直到黎明。那天晚上结束时，我曾经很高兴！
(I went to a charnel ground for the practice of Chod a few dozen times in India and in Nepal. Several times I went to a place near a meat slaughterhouse where thousands of water buffalo bones were piled high in macabre pyramids. One night as I was chanting, the bones began to shift, move, and rattle about. I didn't think it was a ghost or demon, but I did imagine that some kind of huge rat or snake was making its way through the immense pile. I must admit I was scared out of my wits, although I somehow managed to keep chanting, praying, and practicing the somber meditation and visualization until dawn. Was I ever happy when that night ended!)